Journey Producer Thinks Steve Perry Fears Doing Live Concerts with Journey Again

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Classic rock band Journey started to soar to the top of the music chart with Steve Perry’s voice singing their rock music masterpieces. Perry’s unique tenor voice hitting those high notes captivated music fans in those years. He rejoined the band for an album but rejected doing live concerts again because of a hip injury. Perry is well now but would not come back. The fan’s clamor for him to return is huge but still would not do so. What could be the reason?

Early years

From “Stone in Love” to “Don’t Stop Believin", Perry’s voice blended perfectly with Neal Schon’s difficult and unique masterful guitar riffs within the songs.

In 1997, Perry suffered a hip injury and he was advised to undergo hip replacement surgery. In 1998, Schon and Cain have grown impatient after nearly 17 months of waiting for him to come back to start their tour. They gave him an ultimatum that either he undergo surgery or they will replace him with another singer so the tour would start. Perry was still hesitant to undergo surgery and finally decided to leave the band.

Several months later, Perry underwent a successful hip replacement surgery and recovered. Now that Perry is well again, there were many speculations why he would not come back to the band again. Reports indicate his rift with the other members was so deep.

Journey producer Kevin Shirley

A new perspective came out recently on why Perry would not come back to the band. In an interview done by Musicradar writer Joe Bosso with current Journey producer Kevin Shirley, Shirley said,”…Steve Perry developed, and he reached the point where he… you know, people’s voices change.” He continued, “You look at the guy like Robert Plant, who’s doing his Alison Krauss thing now. In 1969 he was doing the “Whole Lotta Love Thing”, and he just doesn’t do that anymore.”

Kevin Shirley was able to work with Steve Perry and Journey when they did their last album together. Shirley is an experienced master sound mixer of rock music and worked with famed bands. He mixed the band’s latest and platinum-hit “Revelation” with Filipino lead singer Arnel Pineda.

Shirley continued, “Same thing with Steve Perry, who probably struggles to do “Open Arms” now. He was probably scared to go out there and have trouble doing what people wanted.” Steve Perry is now 62 years old.

Journey is really back

Replacements Steve Augeri and Jeff Scott Sotto did some of the hits at a lower pitch. With Arnel Pineda’s great pipes and unique discovery, Neal Schon and the band went back to the original keys. The notes that only Perry can do is back. The band is alive again.

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Journey starts their world tour this year with power voice lead singer Arnel Pineda on February 23 at Planet Hollywood, Las Vegas, Nevada. They will tour the countries of America and Europe and launch their new album "Eclipse" in May.

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Classic Rock, Eclipse, Journey Band, Kevin Shirley, Neal Schon, New Album, Revelation, Steve Perry, Tour 2011

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author avatar Kev Sonner
24th Mar 2011 (#)

Kevin Shirley needs to update his comments. Pineda lasted ONE tour singing Perry's high notes. Since 2009, the band has since adjusted their playing lower to accomodate the difficulty Pineda has had. At least Perry was able to do pull it off for years, with a far more grueling schedule than Pineda. Perry is a seasoned performer who loved performing live. If he can no longer reach the high notes, like Augeri, Soto, and yes, even now Pineda, he could easily sing them a half step down and still have the same effect, just as he did on his solo tour. However, he has been heard singing his high notes since recording TBF with Kevin Shirley. Looking at everything, I would say Perry's problem is emotional, rather than fear or inability. With a deeply sensitive guy like Perry, it is not a stretch to consider he was incredibly hurt. And considering the band's (& manager's) lack of concern for the singer and vocal burn out, why would Perry want to go put up with that kind of abuse again? He gave all he had, only to be used like a disposable commodity. It is sad not to hear the real Journey ever again, however, Perry is better off without those horrible people in his life.

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author avatar Tim
10th Apr 2011 (#)

Journey was formed before Perry. Perry did make them more famous, but he didn't form the band.It's a team effort and Perry kicking Steve Smith and Ross Valory makes Perry the jerk not the other way around. Perry's lack of concern for the other band members love of playing music, career, and providing for thier families is what makes Perry the jerk in this story.

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author avatar JC
17th Jul 2011 (#)

Your missing the point. When Perry joined Journey he catapulted that group into super stardom and all journey has done without him since is find a copy cat replacement that in my opinion I'd rather not waste my time with it. One can mimic a voice to a degree but even at that purists know that the original always is better. No one has ever matched the intensity, soul, and emotion in his singing period. I'm not buying the generic journey never have. As far as I'm concerned he doesn't have to go back with journey as long as he puts out his own stuff. It's better than the copy cat journey. The Perry experience is much better and always will be.

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author avatar Genetrix
8th Aug 2011 (#)

Youre right. Ive heard those replacements from Augerie to Pineda. The HEAVY MELODIC SOUND, I just cant find in their voices despite strings of minor notes. The SOUL was missing...They can shout, but they cant scream....

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author avatar James Getman
30th Sep 2011 (#)

We All Do! But I Don't Think We Will See Steve With Journey Again!

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author avatar Donna
6th Oct 2012 (#)

I totally agree. There is only one Steve Perry. Journey without Steve Perry is anti climatic....

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author avatar Norma Hughes
19th Mar 2013 (#)

Come on people Yes I agree Steve is the best and to tell you the truth I didn't ever know them till Steve. I am not that much younger than he is . It is just so sad that he don't sing anymore and he was the best of so many out their .

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author avatar Bob
30th Sep 2011 (#)

@ Mick - Herbie Herbert (Journey's manager) demanded that Smith & Valory be paid. Not Perry. Get YOUR facts straight. Perry totally controlled the band, then quit in '87. Also, Perry can't sing. He's not 32 anymore. If he could, he'd have put out a couple of solo albums. But he's 62, the pipes have lessened with age and he never has to work another day in his life...what with all the Glee royalities and kids who think Don't Stop Believin' just came out last year.

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author avatar Norma Hughes
19th Mar 2013 (#)

Yes he is 62 and maybe unable to sing that way anymore but why put him down he is one of the greats and should be known for his good and not shot down for what he can no longer do . After all all good thing do have to come to an end even if we don't want it to . It's a fact of life . I still love him and if he can ever would love to hear him again even if it's not the same.

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author avatar James Getman
30th Sep 2011 (#)

Steve Is Known For Being Very Hard Headed And Having It His Way Or No Way!

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author avatar Kev sonner
15th Oct 2011 (#)

Which is what made him so good at his craft. He settled for nothing less than the best. Which is more than we can say for most people.

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author avatar Helen
29th Dec 2013 (#)

YOU ARE A JERK. HE HAS SAID IN MANY INTERVIEWS THAT HE REGRETS THAT DECISION AND HE COULD GO BACK HE WOULD NOT MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE.

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author avatar Agnes
29th Dec 2013 (#)

I agree with helen you jerk

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author avatar Ally
29th Dec 2013 (#)

Tim, helen and Agnes hit the nail on the head. Do you know steve personally? Probably not. So stop making negative statements about our beloved steve. FAN FOREVER.

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author avatar Madeleine
13th Mar 2014 (#)

Journey was nothing until Steve Perry joined the group. Now with the so call new Journey's front man that can not sell out concert's, there album's go no where near what amount of sales let alone sell out concert's. Steve Perry is still doing other things with other artist As for NS all he can do is try to copy the great Santana so get a gripe on reality

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author avatar Nani
2nd Aug 2011 (#)

Steven perry can sing the notes wether they are high or low, maybe when he is ready he will come back, until than really no one can really give a good definitive answer to this question. It is up to him to come back or not, only steve in his heart will know if he wants to or not. Whatever he decides he is still one of the greatest and gifted singers that put Journey on the map for over 10 years! He not only sang but also wrote a lot of beautiful soul touching music as well. One can only hope that he weill come back with a new album to blow all his critics out of the water! Any singer can sound like Steve Perry, but who wants a carbon copy, when the real one is and will always be the best that Journey had and stupidly lost. Steve needed time to save himself from complete burnout and he deserves to live his life not on anyone's terms but his own. Judgement can be passed, but what for, he has earned his right to privacy and a continued full semi retired life! Who knows maybe he will all blow us away again soon!

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author avatar PTM
2nd Sep 2011 (#)

It wasn't just the bum hip, they had just released Trial By Fire, and 'When you love a Woman' went platinum, they HAD to tour to promote the album. I didn't like that either, because Steve is the man, but it wasn't just because of his hip.

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author avatar Jim
27th Aug 2011 (#)

i could,t of said it better myself , & remember neil & john let him go , becouse of a bum hip , & woul,d wait, whats that tell ya mmmmm

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author avatar James Getman
30th Sep 2011 (#)

Interesting Point!

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author avatar James Getman
30th Sep 2011 (#)

Interesting Point!

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author avatar Kalina
26th Nov 2011 (#)

Bravo.

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author avatar Jeffrey
23rd Mar 2013 (#)

We all know who journey WAS that band died when the voice left yes the Instrumental part was great but Arguably the best male Vocals EVER EVER listen to the past and present and tell the world Otherwise please!!!!!!!!!

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author avatar Joem789
1st Apr 2013 (#)

Looking at what Perry did in 1994 with his solo band. Especially the You Better Wait video. It's clear to me that he didn't need Journey. Shit. The You Better Wait video sounded more like Journey than they do now! It is possible that Perry may have preserved his voice. But a voice must be able to withstand the support required to sing the way he did. I don't think he could physically pull it off touring. He could probably do a single song. But that's all. Even Sammy Hagar is getting tired and weak. People don't realize just how important the chest down is for singing rock. The older you get, the less able you are to belt. There are usually drugs involved to keep going, like with Steven Tyler.

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author avatar Racerx
28th Jul 2013 (#)

Oh please! First off this is 2013 and Steve perry is now 64. He admitted that it would take quite a bit of work to sing today. Weeks and weeks of practicing and yes, he can still sing.
The tour for the TBF album got derailed because Steve went to Hawaii to get into shape for it. That's when the hip thing started. He was in a lot of pain doing the video for "when You Love a Woman" and he was in such pain that he knew he could not do the tour. Then it became a group decision, which perry thought it shouldn't be, but Schon and Cain gave the ultimatum and then after months of waiting, Steve had the surgery and is fine. He's also just under gone facial surgery for melanoma.
Oh and BTW........
When You Love a Woman was nominated for a Grammy in 1997. And was the only video made. But Steve did get Steve smith to come back with the band as well as Ross valery.

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author avatar Kev Sonner
7th May 2011 (#)

I think Kevin Shirley is very unprofessional, and caddy claiming Steve Perry is "scared" to sing and tour again. He doesn't have a clue why Perry isn't out there. Perry has his reasons I am sure. And most agree it is not fear, or lack of ability. Perhaps he is just enjoying retirement, which he can afford to do. He managed his money quite well. Additionally, the business was brutal. Perhaps he had enough. Kevin Shirley ought to keep his lame thoughts and slander to himself.

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author avatar Nickie J.
12th Oct 2013 (#)

I agree. Comment should've never been made and it speaks to a lack of loyalty and a whole lot of bitterness.

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author avatar Julie S
11th Jul 2011 (#)

Steve's voice is very soothing and inspiring to me to write music of my own. Although he's pretty much retired from doing the full fledged music album and tour thing, he probably still does sing when he gets the chance to. I figured he goes up to a recording studio in LA (Anaheim I think) and tinkers around with it for fun. I do know he's been working with a vocalist or two by helping them get started with their singing careers. Maybe one day when I'm visiting in his area, I'll run into him when he's out and about somewhere shopping or at a restaurant in the San Diego area and say hello. I just wish I knew where he frequently appears so I can get the chance to share a smile and hug with him. He seems like a very friendly fella!

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author avatar Gail
14th Jul 2011 (#)

For those who think S. Perry can't sing anymore, you simply should look on You Tube for his collaborations with other singers in recent years. He's still got it and would be well received if he chose to share his voice again. Also, I must comment that tho his vocal ability has received accolades, Steve has not been recognized for his stage presence. Not only did he hit it all the time, everytime, he was great out front interacting with the crowd and always giving his all. Later Journey singers even try to immitate his emotion - can't be done. He was simply the best ever!

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author avatar Friend of Bills
20th Jul 2011 (#)

I truly want to say music has a way of moving my spirit. Always has.I have never put music in different catagories other than the music that makes me FEEL something down deep & the music that doesn't. Steve Perry's VOICE moved me in a way, that words could never explain.He touched my heart & soul with his voice as well as stage presense.He has been missed by many & adored by the millions!His reasons for taking care of himself first, make perfect sense to me, in fact had he not demanded it I'm afraid they would have just continued to push him.His personal reasons are respectable, I'm quite sure of that.I hope he knows that all these years later he is loved & accepted by many who miss the man with soul in that God given voice, & can bring a tear or an emotion in just a single note.He is certainly missed by us all, he we are writing of him.And,all of us with one real purpose, hoping he would be willing to return to the fans who have loved him while he was off taking good care of himself. I feel blessed he shared his life & talent with us as long as he could or wanted to. All the best to Steve..his friends & fans in Arizona.

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author avatar Dianne
15th Mar 2014 (#)

Thank you, well-spoken for Steve Perry Arizona fans -- like me--- forever---God bless you Steve! :)

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author avatar Dan
3rd Aug 2011 (#)

All I want to do is have Steve Perry sing once more and take me back to the decade of my youth. The band today does nothing for me.

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author avatar Robin Kurtz
17th Sep 2011 (#)

I grew up with Journey and listening to Steve Perry makes me feel like I'll always be young now matter what age.

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author avatar MikeInMichigan
7th Aug 2011 (#)

The demand for Steve Perry's return is huge. Probably bigger than he even realizes. He could pack stadiums and would be one of the most welcome returns of rock and roll. I think the fans would just be glad just to have him back and performing some of the songs that he made famous.

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author avatar NewPerryFan
8th Aug 2011 (#)

You are absolutely right. I'm sure people have been begging this man for years to come back and sing again, but I believe that demand has increased tenfold. This new Journey that's touring and eating up the spotlight... While they have picked up a lot of new fans (mostly younger people) this resurgence of Journey has also reawakened Perry's career. Those that decided to buy older CD's and listen to the old stuff are discovering what a fantastic singer Steve Perry was during his time. If Pineda hasn't completely won them over yet then they're probably scratching their heads wondering why and longing for "that other guy" or "the original". Steve Perry- the day he announces a comeback I foresee the internet exploding and Journey fans rejoicing everywhere. Maybe he can't sing like he used to. Anyone expecting him to sound like he's 20 again should be ashamed. However, like fine wine, not all voices are ruined with age. I'm sure he can still sing even if it's down an octave. I don't think the fans will care though. They just want "the Perry experience" or just to witness the guys all together one last time.

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author avatar Thorsten
11th Aug 2011 (#)

I'm sure that the band knows that people want Steve back. Over here in Europe, they would fill venues ten times larger than the ones they play now. So I wouldn't wonder if they tried to convince him with money ;-)

A dream would come true to see/hear him once in my life....lower pitch or not....who cares...well, maybe he cares...

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author avatar Laura
13th Aug 2011 (#)

An't nothing like the real thing BABY !

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author avatar Kent Greenlee
26th Aug 2011 (#)

Journey "IS" Steve Perry ... I also saw Arnel with Journey in Lake Tahoe ... He did a great job, if you closed your eyes you could "imaging" Steve singing, but it still wasn't the same. I'll still listen to my OLD Journey C.D.'s

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author avatar Richard
3rd Sep 2011 (#)

I saw them in Pittsburgh last week with Night Ranger and Foreigner. I actually like Arnel. I think he does a very fine job. My gripe is with the sound mix - too much guitar overpowering everything else. I've heard that from other people also. And much too loud, like blaring loud! I thought Foreigner was great and much better live than Journey, and I'm a big Journey fan. But Foreigner won the day, and I also think Foreigner's new album is much better than Journey's new album. Again with Journey, too much Neal! Too heavy and minor sounding. I will always like Journey, but I'd go see Foreigner live again before I'd see Journey.

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author avatar Sue
9th Sep 2011 (#)

Can't go a day without listening to Best of Journey and Very Best of Steve Perry. Just a beautiful voice!! Also I'm loving the UTube videos and clips of Steve. I'm just getting into him now...after missing out really, on Journey in the 80's. Raising kids will do that. Anyway, just wanted to add my absolute love of his voice to these comments. He is spectacular! I wish we could hear from him again, but maybe he is just not interested in performing publicly anymore. For now we'll have to settle for CD's, etc. Sigh!

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author avatar FM505
14th Sep 2011 (#)

Dear Steve,
Its all been said before... their side, your side, and our side - that is your 'Massive' world wide, multi-generational fan base.
Drop the sword, forgive those guys... continue your journey on the high road in this regard, but the time has come... return to your place at the top of the heap and into our dearly desired vision of you on stage.
Much love brother.

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author avatar FM505
14th Sep 2011 (#)

... 'on stage - again'.

Peace.

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author avatar Lulu
23rd Sep 2011 (#)

GOSH, lets be honest. Listen to Steve Perry's 1994 live concerts on youtube. You are deaf or in denial if you cant hear his voice cracking a lot and struggling, singing in different melody to acommodate his faltering voice. Growing old sucks - like Whitney Houston's voice going. I love SP, but I have to accept him as human.

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author avatar Norma Hughes
19th Mar 2013 (#)

Thank you Lulu !!!

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author avatar Patricia
2nd Aug 2013 (#)

I LOVE his 1994 concerts. They are incredible. "I miss you Stevie....." What a great rapport with the audience

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author avatar Bob
30th Sep 2011 (#)

The TBF (reunion) record with Journey was terrible, save for a couple of tunes. Perry's voice was rough. Many people put SP up as a God, but get real....he WAS great. He CANNOT sing now. He's 62, folks. It ain't 1983.

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author avatar Hope
11th Dec 2012 (#)

@Bob, TBF album, was NOT Terrible. It was a Great Album, sold millions of copies and continues to be played across the world. Journey of today, Don't play any songs in concert from that TBF album, but it's the TRUE FANS of Steve Perry that are the realists here. You are unrealistic. We the people that have been admirers of the music for 30 plus years, We understand that Steve will Not sing like he did in the 70s, 80s, or 90s. We also are aware that he's been working with many people in the music business. 62 years old is not the end for any singer, you need to get your facts straight, Many Great singers continue to have a music career. sP left the music industry for personal reasons, he can still sing, he will come out and sing but not to prove to you or anyone, Just for himself. That's the way Steve Perry works! He doesn't have to prove to Anyone, anything, he already did that many years ago. He's simply the Voice. Oh and Bob, I want to be there when you are listening to him on the radio!l :)

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author avatar Patricia
2nd Aug 2013 (#)

Nope, the dude is great and always will be.

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author avatar Ann
6th Oct 2011 (#)

Just saw Journey last night. I LOVE the music. BUT...it just wasn't the same w/out Steve Perry. I told my hubby that I might have rushed the stage if it had been. The soul, emotion, heart, blood, sweat & tears of all the hard work just wasn't there. I feel bad that I saw them-sorry SP. Don't worry about Steve though, I think he is having a good time now. We love that he is a SF Giants Fan and attends many home games-check You Tube for video of him singing Don't Stop Believin'-he gets everyone to sing with him with a big smile!! There is no other SP-thank you for teenage memories that your songs & voice invoke. Glad you were a part of my childhood!

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author avatar Jonah
21st Dec 2011 (#)

Yeah, I agree with all of you, SP is a great singer. But, SP chose to become only a part of Journey's history. All we can do is cherish the memory and listen to his wonderful voice. But then singers come and go and we just have to develop the grace of accepting new singers. They give their best to entertain all. Instead,Y not sit back and enjoy their music or not listen at all and do something else. Life is too short to dwell on negative emotions caused by your idol who chose not to sing anymore.

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author avatar Bongon wilfredo imbo
17th Jan 2012 (#)

journey is good even my college days i used to love their sounds their instrument the synchopation etc..amazing..

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author avatar Melinda
28th Jun 2012 (#)

It sounded like Steve sang less of the high notes in the albums released in the 90s, but I loved those songs just as much as his earlier work. I don't care if Steve Perry rejoins Journey or does a solo album....... I just want to hear his amazing voice again!!! His God given talent should be showcased, enjoyed, and loved by all generations!!!

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author avatar Darrien
6th Feb 2013 (#)

Kevin Shirley doesn't know jack-squat, and should keep his mouth shut. Because a man's voice got deeper, does not mean he can't still do the high stuff ... Secondly Journey hasn't done JACK, since Perry's been out of the band .. not a single solitary hit on the rock chart (the album Revelation debuted high just on the name). .. One question's Shirley's motives, considering the above fact and what he's blathering about Steve Perry.

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author avatar Cate
8th Feb 2013 (#)

Who says he can't sing just because he can't hit the high notes??? I bet his new songs are tailored to his voice now. I really hope he does come out with new stuff.

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author avatar Cate
8th Feb 2013 (#)

Also, I really like TBF. The songs are really soulful. High notes not needed to sound good.

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author avatar Darrien
16th Feb 2013 (#)

Cate - How do you know he can't hit the notes? Because Kevin Shirley said so? .. See what I'm saying ?
Kevin was involved with the last two 'Journey' albums, which neither yielded a hit single. He thinks it's in the 'Journey' band's his interest to berate Steve Perry, in the last 3 years.
Steve can still belt it ... If he chooses not to put anything out that's his business.
And the one we know is having trouble singing Journey's songs, in the last 5 months is Arnel Pineda.

And yes Trial By Fire is great!
.. Maybe one ballad too many, but today everyone can make their own version.

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author avatar Norma Hughes
19th Mar 2013 (#)

I will say the band is still great and I still get up and they make me move still. But I loved Steve and always will I sure miss those moves that he had and his buns must I say more . This singer now just don't have the moves or the buns . I have gone two a concert in the last 12 months and He stood still more than getting into the music.That is my real problem and when Steve sang he just did it for us all ....

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author avatar Uknow
7th May 2013 (#)

I've cried and laughed to his songs. I've danced and slept to his tunes. No one will ever replace replace Steve Perry. I'm so glad I had the opportunity to enjoy him at the height of his career.

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author avatar Marlene
18th Jul 2013 (#)

When Steve was asked what was his most difficult vocal performance,he stated the song Mother,Father...truly AMAZING....take a listen....WOW takes my breath away...each and every time...I know, he cannot do that tenor as well or at all..but he has soooo much more to offer and come on Steve, we are not getting any younger....me included

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author avatar Racerx
28th Jul 2013 (#)

I agree Marlene. MOTHER, FATHER was a feat to do back in the day for Steve. But weather he can do that today or not is not the question. It's IF he wants to. Big difference there. I love all the early Journey stuff and have it all on my iPod.
I think Steve's today voice would be just as good as it was back in the 90's. I saw one of his FTLOSM gigs and he was AWESOME!! Just amazing! Yes, he sounds deeper and sexier and I've heard his speaking voice in the last few years and it sounds deep, a little raspy, but very Steve! Very, very sexy.
We will all just have to wait till he's ready and that may not ever happen. Just glad we can still enjoy him now and I still have to have my "journey music fix" daily!

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author avatar Jean
11th Aug 2013 (#)

To make it 'sweet and simple'
I don't think we care who, how,when, or where, we just want Steve to sing again!

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author avatar Jean
11th Aug 2013 (#)

In retrospect, I think the sooner the better.

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author avatar Cindy
17th Aug 2013 (#)

We all just want to hear Steve sing again. It won't be the '78 voice, or the '83 voice or even the '94 voice, but it will be magnificent because it is Steve's voice and his voice is a miracle. Listening to him sing all of these years has been a blessing to all of his fans. I'm just so glad that he chose the path he did and shared his beautiful gift with us. An amazing voice, and an amazing man. God Bless you Steve Perry and thank you...sincerely....thank you.

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author avatar Lynn
30th Sep 2013 (#)

I think that the reason Journey is making a comback has much to do with Glee and the reinterest in their work. I think Arnel has a nice voice but he is NOT Steve Perry. My interest in Journey is based on Perry's voice. I would love to see him comeback but I don't think that's likely. I would, however, love to hear him sing; a new album maybe. His voice is unique. If Arnel is the best they can come up with, I'll pass on the new Journey. I, too, think there is plenty of voice left in him, even if he has to sing lower. Its not the high voice, its the quality of the tone that I love.

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